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	<description>Michiel de Lange&#039;s PhD research on identity construction and the mobile phone</description>
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		<title>By: Alper</title>
		<link>http://www.bijt.org/wordpress/2005/09/20/technology-ethics-meeting-in-delft/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the late reply,

Yeah I did notice. This is a style of presenting which is becoming known as &lt;a href=&quot;http://presentationzen.blogs.com/presentationzen/2005/10/the_lessig_meth.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Lessig Method&lt;/a&gt;. It must have been great to see Lessig giving that presentation in real life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the late reply,</p>
<p>Yeah I did notice. This is a style of presenting which is becoming known as <a href="http://presentationzen.blogs.com/presentationzen/2005/10/the_lessig_meth.html" rel="nofollow">The Lessig Method</a>. It must have been great to see Lessig giving that presentation in real life.</p>
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		<title>By: michiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>michiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, thanks Alper! 

It is a cool speech to watch (if only for its speed and and action!). Dick Hardt points to some interesting issues about identity, namely that identity online is based on reputation; what sites you visit; were you hang out; what others think and say about you, which is more trustworthy than what you say about yourself. Identity in the online world doesn&#039;t mimic the real world in that there is no exchange of reputation across different domains. In the online world &quot;identity 1.0&quot; is based on a direct person-to-site connection. The main problem with online identity is: how can you establish trust in an online environment?

Of course, identity as discussed by Dick Hardt is a very narrow conception of what it means to be/have a Self. It&#039;s not identity in the philosophical or anthropological sense. Online identity according to Hardt is the aggregate of trust-relations you build up at muliple sites. This view doesn&#039;t take into account elements of identity like change and contingency. What exactly then characterises an online identity in the broad sense? This will be the main focus of the research :).
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BTW: did you notice he gives credit to Lawrence Lessig&#039;s presentation style influence at the end? I&#039;ve seen Lessig&#039;s presentation when &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creativecommons.nl&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Creative Commons Netherlands&lt;/a&gt; started in 2004. Back then I worked for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kennisland.nl&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kennisland&lt;/a&gt;, one of the initiators of CC-NL. I must say, Lessig&#039;s presentation was quite a rush...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thanks Alper! </p>
<p>It is a cool speech to watch (if only for its speed and and action!). Dick Hardt points to some interesting issues about identity, namely that identity online is based on reputation; what sites you visit; were you hang out; what others think and say about you, which is more trustworthy than what you say about yourself. Identity in the online world doesn&#8217;t mimic the real world in that there is no exchange of reputation across different domains. In the online world &#8220;identity 1.0&#8243; is based on a direct person-to-site connection. The main problem with online identity is: how can you establish trust in an online environment?</p>
<p>Of course, identity as discussed by Dick Hardt is a very narrow conception of what it means to be/have a Self. It&#8217;s not identity in the philosophical or anthropological sense. Online identity according to Hardt is the aggregate of trust-relations you build up at muliple sites. This view doesn&#8217;t take into account elements of identity like change and contingency. What exactly then characterises an online identity in the broad sense? This will be the main focus of the research <img src='http://www.bijt.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
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BTW: did you notice he gives credit to Lawrence Lessig&#8217;s presentation style influence at the end? I&#8217;ve seen Lessig&#8217;s presentation when <a href="http://www.creativecommons.nl" rel="nofollow">Creative Commons Netherlands</a> started in 2004. Back then I worked for <a href="http://www.kennisland.nl" rel="nofollow">Kennisland</a>, one of the initiators of CC-NL. I must say, Lessig&#8217;s presentation was quite a rush&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alper</title>
		<link>http://www.bijt.org/wordpress/2005/09/20/technology-ethics-meeting-in-delft/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my second post got truncated because I posted it as a trackback from my own blog. Anyway, I hope the stuff I&#039;m pointing to is of any interest to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my second post got truncated because I posted it as a trackback from my own blog. Anyway, I hope the stuff I&#8217;m pointing to is of any interest to you.</p>
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		<title>By: michiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>michiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alper&#039;s post got truncated, for some reason. Here&#039;s the full link:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://82.156.122.105:9673/blog/study/371&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://82.156.122.105:9673/blog/study/371&lt;/a&gt;.


&quot;In our gathering about identities, ethics and philosophy some interesting points were discussed.
I will talk some more about certain specifics from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bijt.org/wordpress/2005/09/20/technology-ethics-meeting-in-delft/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michiel&#039;s notes&lt;/a&gt;.


For those interested in identities I would like to point out my &lt;a href=&quot;http://82.156.122.105:9673/blog/alper/375&quot;&gt;blogpost&lt;/a&gt; discussing the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;presentation Dick Hardt gave&lt;/a&gt; at OSCON about Identity 2.0. This is at a very practical level and talks about identity, privacy and verifiability. The presentation is well worth watching, it is fun and it has a visionary air about it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alper&#8217;s post got truncated, for some reason. Here&#8217;s the full link:</p>
<p><a href="http://82.156.122.105:9673/blog/study/371" rel="nofollow">http://82.156.122.105:9673/blog/study/371</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;In our gathering about identities, ethics and philosophy some interesting points were discussed.<br />
I will talk some more about certain specifics from <a href="http://www.bijt.org/wordpress/2005/09/20/technology-ethics-meeting-in-delft/" rel="nofollow">Michiel&#8217;s notes</a>.</p>
<p>For those interested in identities I would like to point out my <a href="http://82.156.122.105:9673/blog/alper/375">blogpost</a> discussing the <a href="http://www.identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/" rel="nofollow">presentation Dick Hardt gave</a> at OSCON about Identity 2.0. This is at a very practical level and talks about identity, privacy and verifiability. The presentation is well worth watching, it is fun and it has a visionary air about it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: www.alper.nl</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.alper.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Values in Technology Meeting&lt;/strong&gt;

In our gathering about identities, ethics and philosophy some interesting points were
discussed. I will talk some more about certain specifics from Michiel&#039;s notes. For those
interested in identities I would like to point out my blogpost discussing t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Values in Technology Meeting</strong></p>
<p>In our gathering about identities, ethics and philosophy some interesting points were<br />
discussed. I will talk some more about certain specifics from Michiel&#8217;s notes. For those<br />
interested in identities I would like to point out my blogpost discussing t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alper</title>
		<link>http://www.bijt.org/wordpress/2005/09/20/technology-ethics-meeting-in-delft/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the Technorati Watch I set out on my own name paid off. I discovered your blog before I could find the time to send you an e-mail.
(BTW, I&#039;m an MSc student.)

Nice to see this, I was going to ask you for these notes but now I can continue to be informed.

I told Bibi that she should see the EPIC presentations in the light of privacy and recommendation engines but I&#039;m afraid I sent her off in the wrong direction. The correct URL is: http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Technorati Watch I set out on my own name paid off. I discovered your blog before I could find the time to send you an e-mail.<br />
(BTW, I&#8217;m an MSc student.)</p>
<p>Nice to see this, I was going to ask you for these notes but now I can continue to be informed.</p>
<p>I told Bibi that she should see the EPIC presentations in the light of privacy and recommendation engines but I&#8217;m afraid I sent her off in the wrong direction. The correct URL is: <a href="http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/" rel="nofollow">http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/</a></p>
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